SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Mel Bond. And Mel, the doctors told you and your wife that you only had one chance in 100,000 of a normal child. You had three stillbirths, or three miscarriages and a baby born deformed. And why did you continue trying to have children with that doctor telling you that?
MEL: Because we believe in the Word of God and we stood on God’s word. And so during the night session I was awakened and I see this demon. It was over the top of my wife’s body, the lower parts of her body, and faster than almost than you can think, I mean so quick, it was like I could see throughout infinity out towards the east, eastern skies, and I see this angel come rushing out of the east, and it came down and wrestled with this demon, and then running off out into the southwestern skies, and at that time we were living in St. Charles, Missouri. And then that angel came back and he got on his knees, and he put his hands in the lower parts of my wife’s body. And we have three perfect children.
SID: How were you praying back then?
MEL: Well to the best of my ability with my whole heart. But more than anything we were just standing on God’s word. We just said God’s word is truth and we’re gonna believe it.
SID: Tell me, when you raised your children, did you teach them about discernment, and did they move in discernment?
MEL: Absolutely.
SID: Did they understand deliverance? Tell me about that.
MEL: I would teach my children, as soon as they began to understand and talk, that I would tell them that if they would have flus, colds, fevers, the typical things that children get, and I’d teach them, this is a spirit. This is a demon spirit. And I’d come in there in the bedroom many times during the night session, and that was my job. You know, my wife would do the other things. But I’d come in there and then I’d pray and they’d break it. They’d break it. And I’d say, “Now if that spirit tries to come back you just take authority. You just say, ‘In Jesus’ name, you can’t stay.’” And you’d hear them, the little girls in there, talking in their voices and saying, “Jesus’ name.” Even one time my middle daughter, her name is Chantelle, she was about three years old, and she says, “Devil, if you come back I’m gonna squash you like a bug.”
SID: Out of the mouths of babes. I’ve got a report here, medical report on one of your daughters about her eyesight. She was legally blind. Tell me about that.
MEL: Okay. She was legally blind. And, you know, Jesus said in John 16:24, he said, “If two of you ask nothing in my name ask and you shall receive that your joy will be full.” Well that word “ask” means more than your just speaking out of your mouth. It says “to crave and to demand what is due.” Not demanding God, but to demand the devil get away. “And that my joy be full.” Well my joy can’t be full if my child, if my baby daughter, Caress, she’s blind. And so I got some charts, legal charts, eye charts, and I began, and so I prayed for her. And I looked into the realm of the spirit and I see that the demon spirit of blindness, I command it leave. And so she had perfect, better than perfect eyesight. Better. And so she went back to the medical doctor, and you have the reports.
SID: Speaking of medical doctors, tell me about that heart surgeon that came to one of your meetings.
MEL: Okay. He was a person that, he said he was a Christian. But he just didn’t believe in healings and miracles. And he came to a service in North Carolina, and he said that, well the upshot of the whole thing is let me start back. That I was preaching and when I was preaching I didn’t know these people. It was the first time I had ever been to this church in my life. There was 300 people, something like that there. And I look back and I see this man. I see in his chest and I see the demons, and I can tell you where they were wrapped around his arteries on his heart region. And I just told him, I said, “You got problems here,” and I described it. And I didn’t say it was a demon. I didn’t want to scare him. Some people get scared by that. And so I just said, “There’s a problem here.” And I told him where it was intricately. And then I said, “I’m gonna get rid of it now in Jesus’ name.” And so I did. And then he got real excited and he says, “I felt that! I felt that!” And he says, “I know it’s God because I feel so much better.” And then he made the statement. I think he said he’s a heart surgeon. He says, “I’m scheduled to have open heart surgery to do exactly what you said.” He says, “I want to know where you got your training.” I says, “I just got my training from Jesus. He lets me look inside the spirit world and see, look inside the bodies and see if there’s things wrong.” And he says, “I came to this service to prove that you were a fake.” And he says, “Now I know that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever, and that healing and miracles are real.”
SID: You know Mel, it’s wonderful that you move in this supernatural gift of discernment. But when people read your book or they attend your conferences, do you get many reports of people that start moving in these gifts of discernment?
MEL: I would say immediately. I just came from Japan where I did a Masters conference and I had some very incredible ministers that are even friends of Dr. Paul Yonggi Cho that said this is the greatest meeting he’s ever been in his life, and it’s only 45 minutes, a small meeting. And immediately, in there, I think there was like 95 percent of those ministers, and here we have a language barrier. And there was like 95 percent at least.
SID: Started moving into discernment.
MEL: Immediately they started seeing in the spirit world and seeing spirits, which is so important, because people need to realize that’s the root of all of our problems.
SID: Now you talk about love conquers the devil.
MEL: Absolutely.
SID: Love stops the devil. Explain that.
MEL: In the natural world, natural-minded people, if they see a spirit it would horrify them, because it’s a dimension they’re not familiar with, that they’re not schooled in. So they don’t believe in it. And so Satan doesn’t know about love. Love is a dimension, God’s unconditional love is a dimension that Satan knows nothing about. It’s the secret place of the most high God. And so when we operate in love that we get into a dimension that absolutely torments the devil, and it’s one of the greatest forces. Because what is love? God is love. He is unconditional love. And I think that’s one of the major reasons that the devil fights people getting in love. If you read in 1 Corinthians 13, it talks about the nine gifts of the spirit. The devil knows if he fights all the gifts of the spirit, he’s got nine battles on his hands. But it says, “If we don’t walk in love then none of the gifts are…” So he knows all he has to do is fight us, keep us from operating and living in unconditional love. Then none of the gifts work. None of them work or are factual.
SID: So that’s probably why his problems between husbands and wives, parents and children, whereas if he can stop this love he wins.
MEL: He stops it all. That’s right.
SID: But if someone moves in love it mystifies him.
MEL: Absolutely. We actually, when we walk in love we are walking inside of God. That’s the reason the Bible says, “Walk in the spirit.” When we walk in love it’s just like we’re encased by God. We’re in the sacred place of the most high God. What’s the sacred place? Remember when you were a kid you played Hide and Seek?
SID: Right.
MEL: The greater that you can hide then you can’t be found and the devil can’t find us if we get in God’s unconditional love.
SID: Okay. Last thought.
MEL: Well my last thought that I’d like to bring out is in the Book of Mark, the Bible says, “The rich young ruler came to Jesus.” And Jesus was giving him the greatest opportunity that he had ever had in his life. And Jesus said there was only one thing that kept him from that, that he wasn’t trusting God. That he had fear of trusting God with his finances. And so what I want to say, it’s the same thing today. I’d be willing to say that a hundred percent of the time there’s only one thing, and it’s a demon. There’s only thing that keeps people from experiencing the grand finale that God has for them in this life.
SID: I’ve never looked at that, the rich young ruler, that way. So you believe that there is an evil spirit behind just about every physical illness, every problem between people?
MEL: I see it, Sid. I see them. I see them. The Lord has shown me how I can do this at my will any time that I want. And I see it. I wish people could see it the way I, and I can train people to where that they can see, too, because it’s all in the Word of God, that there’s over 700 verses just in the New Testament where it validates, 2 Peter 1:3-4, where it says, “God has already given us all things that pertain to this life and godliness.” What’s godliness? God likeness. You’ll know the truth and the truth will set you free.
SID: Do you know the truth? The truth is Jesus died in your place for your sins. And every rotten thing you’ve done your whole life, everything you’re guilty about, the blood of Jesus will wash away and make you clean if you tell him you’re sorry. And then when you’re clean you ask the King of Love, Jesus, to come and live inside of you. Who wouldn’t want love, pure love, God’s love living and radiating through you. Make Jesus your Lord. Do it now.
