Sid: Getting ready, and boy when I say getting ready because I believe that the Messiah is coming sooner than even I think let alone what you think. I really believe that we are in the period of time that the Rabbi’s of Israel are describing now as in the footsteps of the Messiah. In the traditional community they know something’s up. In the Christian community they know that something’s up; Jesus is getting ready to return. And that’s why I’m interviewing John McTernan. He’s been a guest many times and he has just done a 3 DVD series with notes called “Healing the Broken Heart and Walking Under the Blessings of Abraham.” And I believe that it’s as timely a message as you’ll ever hear. Now John for those that aren’t familiar with you you suffered with a broken heart many years; it crippled you in many areas of your life. But you were totally unaware of it, am I right?
John: Well you’re right Sid. When I look back I actually had a broken heart all my life and I was ministering to the Lord and I had been on your show and the way that I explain it Sid; now you had interviewed me several times. It felt like my life was going… like I was going down an interstate at 65 miles an hour with the emergency brake on. There was something wrong and I couldn’t put my finger on it until the Lord showed me it was a broken heart and I needed to be healed of it.
Sid: Now just out of curiosity. How did He show that to you? What were the circumstances?
John: Well Sid I was praying and crying out to the Lord; “What is wrong.” And it wasn’t like I was in sin or anything like it it was something wrong inside and I didn’t know what it was.
Sid: What a good way to describe it be there was a blockage and you couldn’t put your finger on it till everything God had for you, or you would not have put it that?
John: You know Sid it was more like a resistance inside; that’s the best way for me to explain it. That’s why I used that with the emergency brake on. And I was listening to the radio one day and there was a woman on there who had done an extensive study on children from divorced families. And my mother and father were divorced almost right after I was born…
Sid: And by the way the ones that are listening and say “It’s not for me.” No, you probably has it worse; and when your parents stayed together they went through such turmoil you hit… the same turmoil hit you but go ahead.
John: Yeah, and she was talking about what she found is children from divorced families grow up with broken hearts. And I was thinking, “Broken heart” and immediately, immediately the Holy Spirit took me to Luke 4:18 where in the scriptures it said “That the Lord came to heal the brokenhearted.” And I said “Lord, could that be it; do I have a broken heart?” But I didn’t know that I had one.
Sid: You know what it reminds me of? There are many people walking around that have blockage in their arteries to their heart and some of them die prematurely because of it. They have it and it’s a walking time bomb and they don’t know it because this is on the spiritually level not the physical.
John: Absolutely, you can… that’s the first time I heard that but you hit the nail right on the head with that description. I had this blockage in my spiritual heart and didn’t know it. So I prayed to the Lord, I prayed Luke 4:18. I’ll read this verse, it says “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor.” This is the ministry of Jesus Christ. He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives and the recovering of the sight to the blind and to set at liberty them that are bruised. So my prayer was “Lord, if I have a broken heart, please reveal it and heal it.” And what happened Sid, all of a sudden I don’t know how soon after I prayed but…
Sid: Now, now just out of curiosity was the prayer just like you just said or where you really pushing. Did you just say a pragmatic prayer, “heal me” or were you really crying out for this. I just want to understand?
John: Sid, it was kind of a cry out because I was so desperate to find out what was wrong inside of me. So, yes it was kind of like “Lord, if this is the cause I have a broken heart please reveal it and heal it to me.” Yeah, it was a cry I would say it was a cry to the Lord.
Sid: I have to believe that yes you had a clue because of the statistic of children from divorced families. But I happen to believe in this day that we’re living in that everyone listening to me has a degree of a broken heart or Jesus wouldn’t have said that that was one of the purposes of His coming.
John: You’re absolutely correct, I agree with you 100% this is a fallen world. We come in contact with people that hate us; have lack of love, have anger, have bitterness. Unless Sid you grow up in a wonderful Christian family where God’s love is just flowing through that family and there is forgiveness and all…
Sid: Not too many of my Jewish friend’s do that but go ahead. (Laughing)
John: (Laughing) But, so I cried out to the Lord and all of a sudden this tremendous feeling of loneliness overcame me.
Sid: Hmm.
John: Now this wasn’t loneliness like I’ve gone on a little trip for a couple of days and I’ve missed my wife and family. This was a loneliness that felt like I was dying seriously. And this felt like I was falling into this dark pit. I would lay my head on the pillow at night with this feeling of loneliness and tears would just flow out of eyes. It was just complete separation and this terrible loneliness. And it took me a couple of weeks; I was praying to the Lord; I was giving this to Him; I was saying “Heal me from this.” And then again I was laying in bed and it left me like it weighed 300 pounds on my shoulder and then all of a sudden someone lifted it and it went. And that is when, and there were a couple of other things that were needed but that was the start of the healing of my broken heart. I had this great loneliness in me as a little baby, or youngster, from the separation from my father. And I had the spirit of loneliness that entered into me from being with my mother and stepfather when I wanted to be with my father.
Sid: Were the changes that occurred in your life gradual, or instantaneous, as instantaneous as when this left you, this broken heart?
John: It was instantaneous when that left me but then there were other things that the Lord revealed that had to be dealt with. But this here was instantaneous; something dramatic happened to me at that time. I knew it, I knew it Sid.
Sid: What was some of the other areas that you were set free from once your heart received this major healing from the trauma?
John: Well, along with that was rejection.
Sid: Hm.
John: And my heart had to be healed from this rejection it was like a fear of rejection. I guess that would be the best way to explain it. And the way the Lord… when I saw that I had this rejection in me and it was like a defensive shield Sid that I would put up from the fear of being rejected. I wanted to… this is one of the things that I minister to the people with. Romans 8:15 and this is the verse that set me free. Because it says in that verse “That God has not given us a spirit of bondage again to fear, but a spirit of adoption where we cry Abba Father!” When I realized that God was my source of acceptance not people, and the Bible says that I can call God “Abba,” which is in English “Daddy.” And I rested in Him. That’s what completely healed me of fear of rejection and the spirit of rejection.
Sid: Okay, what difference has it made in your life as a result of having your heart healed?
John: Well, what it’s done is number 1 it’s giving me a great inner peace that I lacked before with that feeling of resistance that I was telling you about. Also I didn’t realize the weakness that was in me and my heart was healed this inner strength came that completely revolutionized my walk with the Lord.
Sid: Well I know this. You don’t know this Mishpochah but John when he just shares people are having these releases and it’s almost like… John you have a new release of gifting which was blocked because of the broken heart.
John: Yes, yes. Once the Lord healed me of that broken heart a whole new like ministry opened up; a whole new walk with the Lord.
Sid: See I believe a lot of the gifts of the Spirit that God has given to people. Just like some have a good heart but have blockage in their arteries the blockage has stopped it from being released. Well, I’m so excited that John put together 3 DVD’s plus his notes. And the 3 DVD’s is called. “Healing the Broken heart and Walking Under the Blessings of Abraham.” It is vital end-time teaching but he prays for you to have your heart blockage removed on this special 3 DVD series with notes.
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